On the margins of reality and fantasy

I keep wondering what distinguishes reality and fantasy, what attributes to their existence and do they have some sort of similarities or they collide at their core, does one leads to another or they are totally decoupled by definition. I will endeavor in this discourse to answer some of the questions that keep storming in a sunny day which dispenses the feelings of discomfort to some extent, and as we all try to ease our feelings in such a cases, I will try to talk about it in my case.

Everybody agrees on the definition of reality as if it is priori or self-evident, will in my dictionary it is not as in my book the last time I visited it there were the concept there is no facts which is half what Nietzsche said about that topic but I disagree with him on the second half regarding interpretations, because as Wittgenstein said the world is a totality of facts as those to axioms stands conflicting but sometime they collide so if we want to deduct a the truthfulness in each sentence which one of them would convey the defections of reality and which one conveys the fantasy. As both of the above mentioned philosophers were realists to a certain extend; they were fantasizing about the reality of their conceptions aside from Nietzsche perception of truth both of them dreamed about something meant to them, something personal and they fanaticized with passion as if there were no passion the whole topic won’t be interesting to prove and themselves and others scholars and critics wrote so many books and articles with or against those concepts and they wrote it with passion.

So if I want to identify reality it would be the passion, orgasm and nostalgia of endeavoring something that could or may mean something to the servant of the fantasy. If I look at my definition assuming that I’m right about it I would say that reality is a consequence of a fantasy that meant something to us, and the reason for such endeavor is passion but is it so?

If I say that I saw a lion and stopped, knowing that the context allowed me to say such a thing and I was saying the truth about it, will this sentence be categorized as fantasy or it will be categorized as a reality, and if I continued by saying he fled from all mighty me and then stopped; will you change your mind about the truthfulness of such reality and label this discourse as a fantasy? And what if I ended up by saying the lion fled flying as it has wings, I bit that you will say come on stop joking around if you perceived me as a funny person tend to tell funny story about my heroic encounters with extraterrestrial existence but if you perceived me as a liar you would be furious about such a lie and you will tell me if you are being nice to me don’t take me as an idiot, or don’t under estimate my intelligence. So in order to pass judgements you need to have a prior knowledge of the objects attributes and applicability to your reality aside from prior knowledge of the story teller. We have to ways to analyze such a story in totally different ways, one would be related if the story has been written and it is attribute to the past as if it is a history thing, in this case we could rely on Foucault to save us from this madness, but if the incident resides in the present you can rely on the common knowledge of the objects and persons as objects, and be the narrator of such a story to judge such reality or a fantasy. Either way we should base our judgments on the attributes of knowledge of objects and subjects aside from what we experienced from both in making our own reality and fantasy. I think no one would disagree with me on that simple conclusion or at least I hope not. And if we agree then the role of the judge appears. My life experience and the humble knowledge that I earned or assume earning allows me to say that everybody acts like a judge aside from being the executioner when he is done from the judge hat and it is fair to say that this has been given and proven across the history as it is a role that every individual plays the funny thing that this could extend to the animal kingdom also or animal hood and it could be that we inherited such behaviors by living or monitoring animals and their behavioral attributes, or it could be the other way around and we are totally mistaken or we under estimated the animal perceptions as they were studying us, but rest assure that I’m not trying to say that animals are more humans that humans to humans or in this case to make it more fun to say they are more than humans to animals as it is irrelevant to the context and it is fun to say or not.

Until now we said the passion plays role or attributes to the existence of reality and fantasy along with prior knowledge of objects and subjects or to phrase it properly prior knowledge of subjects that could be related or attributes to the existence of objects and objects that attributes to the existence of subjects, as if we are saying that we need to be subject matter experts in psychology, society and at least the topic of the discourse which is rarely the case that it would suffice, but for the sake of the argument let’s assume for a bit that those would be enough to pass judgments and to be the tyrant executioner who has been always deemed by somebody who is indifferent to emotions and stone cold practitioner of his deeds.

The question that could arise does reality or fantasy need to be scrutinized, disputed or falsified, and if so why. I could say that if this is not the case what would be the alternative and if such alternative exists what makes it a reality or falsified as a fantasy in never ending endeavor for truthfulness. Does truth satisfy us, does it quench our thirst of being judges and executioners, or we are doing it for a totally different reasoning and if so what validates our reasoning that imposes a reality over scrutinized vaguer fanarity (fantasy and reality in their basic form before any external factor affects the labels, taxonomy or category that they have been branded with). I think living a life without reality is living a fantasy assuming that we agreed what does living, life means and how do we behave toward them, like Pavlov and the dog as the bill acts in our term as a motivator followed by an action toward living and life. Most people assume that they should be skeptic about everything other than their maxims, so it’s ok to act like a judge for some realities that doesn’t include mine as long as I could run away unnoticed, but if I may ask how did we reach to our axioms have it been imposed on us by superiors or we actually challenged our convictions and scrutinized it from the third person perspective, are we that superior to do such a thing do we have enough info and sciences backs our argumentation, are we satisfied with our judgements and if not what to do to act as schizophrenic like playing chess with yourself-trying to beat yourself in a game of life and death. Human being from my humble point of view are not that superior nor have the knowhow of having astral projection where both being are conscious and both beings are at ware of values and facts.

This topic really wants me to keep going none stop as it is narrating itself by itself and my contribution to it only reading what it could have and what could have not written so far. As it enjoys writing it I only hope that it enjoys reading it.

Back again to the attributes of Reality and Fantasy, and I believe that the reader is totally confused regarding what I mean by reality as I didn’t pass over the fantasy yet. And it is legit to say that the question is valid as started by defining the attributes of a concept that means to me as a symbol of truthfulness as I perceive reality as a truthful fact, aside from what dictionary says about it I could add reality could exist only and only if has been proven by whatever science used as it is totally relevant to the context of that field, and that prove has been practiced as a fact within the same context that we mentioned before. In this case my definition of reality is a filter over a filter over truthfulness of subjects attributed to facts and from facts to actions, while fantasy could be the bases of induced fact after scrutinizing and reflected on different disciplines on the way to be considered one day as a fact. The truth in this context also doesn’t represent the global truth as truth of things is very personal and contextual to the arbitrator as truth stands to mean something to him by first before it means anything to anybody else, and if this is the case nobody has the right to act as judge for somebodies realities nor their fantasies as we are outside the scope and of we want out of ego to be inside that scope and intrude that privacy with this publicity which won’t make difference at all for the arbitrator as it is his reality and his fantasy and from his point of view that you are fantasizing that you are included in his context of reality and fantasy.

To look at things from different perspective and I refer to the lion story, reality embodies my story and from a beholder perspective what embodies my reality is fantasies. We could argue all day long about who is right and who is wrong but what could be the outcome of such case other than conflicts where my perspective of reality intimidates your perspective of fantasy and the other way still valid from the eyes of the beholder.
Let’s talk about another story. What about saying that human beings always fight a losing battles in the time continuum. Is it a reality of fantasy and assuming that this is a reality, could anybody give me a glimpse of a clue what is their worth fighting as long as you will end up losing, while losing could be very generic as you could lose yourself, your mind, your motive, your code of conducts, ethics morality, rationality and so on so forth. By having this question open for discussion we could not stop here as we end up questioning every single noun that we came across in the dictionary and what that noun could represent for us in specific and what could have been meant from somebody else to have a the bases of discussion as their will be no discussion as long as terminologies hasn’t been unified.

Another closer to reality example if I said that I have a daughter and due to things related to me an things related to others I could see that my influence on her how she is raised and how she is being taught and what to be taught aside from not seeing her when she was a child and how she grew when she walked when she talked, as the father figure is none existent and being compensated unconsciously by the figures that she sees around, and me knowing so and knowing that I won’t be able to change it other than making her love me by having this pragmatic relation in terms of giving and taking as long that it satisfies the illusion that I based my reality upon, and unsaddled my horse and took that as my reality, as the outcast or the outsider that observes from far to feed the fire in his existence, and this is not the fun part, the fun start when that somebody thinks that such case will work out in time continuum, and the couples of ours that I see her in year will make such a difference other than increasing the value of my despair and resentment for such a naive mind, because that some other person have the two hats that we were discussing the judge and the executioner which if the roles has been switched for the sake of the argument will that reality still exist or it will be nonexistence as it is known things needs to exist in order to seize to exist in time continuum.

I can’t blame somebody for they lack knowledge and expertise to deduce what I foresaw but I blame the one thing that I stand against which is hypocrisy, theocracy which scarcely exist in our ego as our convictions regarding the sense of ownership takes higher precedence than the sense of responsibility if the sense of responsibility vividly exist. But who am I to judge as my intellect can be challenged as my argumentation by a mosquito? And what is the foreseeable outcome of challenging that shallow reality with logical argumentation as long as this reality exists outside your bounds. People try to dodge reality by doing something that takes them away from it, while I dodge it by writing about it, because dialogs can be revised analyzed scrutinized and criticized while ideas will be forgotten once your mind sees to exist

Will such a story be labeled by reality or by a fantasy, and the answer will be the last ingredient of our thin line that we drew between reality and fantasy and that ingredient will be the perspective of the party that challenges your reality of fantasy, and their emotional state toward that.

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3 Responses to On the margins of reality and fantasy

  1. Marwan Kayyali says:

    I categorically agree with on the subject of reality. I believe that reality can only be perceived within the sphere of one’s comprehension, perception and ideology. But, often one uses as a measuring or a descriptive tool that is to say; is subjective and bias to our own desires and wants or even our hopeless wishes. This makes me recall a saying: there is no sin but the sin of the mind.
    Here our imagination can play tricks and games tempting us to sin “in this case perceive a different form of reality” and accordingly to believe. Which is fantasy – Please don’t get me wrong on the analogy of sin here, I am an ardent supporter of sin and transgression against “divine” laws.
    Back to our main topic of reality and how to perceive it within a structural well-defined base. Well, it seems impossible for all of us to see reality as a unified defined set of rules. Reality is unique, personal self-creating phenomena depending on where we are and how fast we are moving.
    On another point, the latter one regarding losing and the reality behind it. Well, in reference to the existentialism philosophy beside the freedom and choice and the right to define your own meaning of this irrational existence. What is the point of this at all? What is reality? Where we’re going? And how well it all end? Sadly no answer. And even though every fight has an inherent tendency to fail and to be lost subsequently, we should define reality and the purpose behind. We all cling to that faint sense of hope and perceive our wishes and dreams “fantasy” as the next immediate reality. Nietzsche said once: put a meaning in everything you do.
    This topic is quit intriguing and grueling in its very foundation. Your endeavor was successful in dealing with its symptoms and maladies.
    All the love and respect.

    • Marwan Kayyali says:

      I categorically agree with on the subject of reality. I believe that reality can only be perceived within the sphere of one’s comprehension, perception and ideology. But, often one uses as a measuring or a descriptive tool that is to say; is subjective and bias to our own desires and wants or even our hopeless wishes. This makes me recall a saying: there is no sin but the sin of the mind.
      Here our imagination can play tricks and games tempting us to sin “in this case perceive a different form of reality” and accordingly to believe. Which is fantasy – Please don’t get me wrong on the analogy of sin here, I am an ardent supporter of sin and transgression against “divine” laws.
      Back to our main topic of reality and how to perceive it within a structural well-defined base. Well, it seems impossible for all of us to see reality as a unified defined set of rules. Reality is unique, personal self-creating phenomena depending on where we are and how fast we are moving.
      On another point, the latter one regarding losing and the reality behind it. Well, in reference to the existentialism philosophy beside the freedom and choice and the right to define your own meaning of this irrational existence. What is the point of this at all? What is reality? Where we’re going? And how well it all end? Sadly no answer. And even though every fight has an inherent tendency to fail and to be lost subsequently, we should define reality and the purpose behind. We all cling to that faint sense of hope and perceive our wishes and dreams “fantasy” as the next immediate reality. Nietzsche said once: put a meaning in everything you do.
      This topic is quit intriguing and grueling in its very foundation. Your endeavor was successful in dealing with its symptoms and maladies.
      All the love and respect.

  2. Zaina says:

    From a conceptual term, reality is what the majority conceive as real. The existence of a God “for example” is reality in some parts of the world. And though the term reality refers to things being real; reality in it’s sense feeling is what you see, hear, touch, or tatse.. The five senses happen to determine reality.. Therefore, if you fantasize “a being” that you hear for example, he becomes part of reality though it is not “real”

    Reality is presented by the masses.. common agreement on what reality is does not define it as being real.. or so I believe..

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